Hi Randy Kay here we all go through struggles at times and I want to share with you through
stories and insights and interviews with others how much God loves you He loves you immensely
and that's what I hope you will hear through our interviews and what we have to share with you
thanks for staying tuned here we go hello randy k here with the heavens series i have a guest who's
absolutely going to bless you but before the blessing there's going to be something
that will be very shocking to you you see my guest brian melvin died and he went to hell
and he saw somebody in hell a number of people actually but one in particular is
perhaps the most hated person in all of history certainly recent history
his book a land unknown hell's dominion is a bestseller and it describes in detail
his account but we're going to get into that detail today so welcome to the show brian well it's great to be here randy it's a joy to be here enjoy to be alive I can tell you that
well you know we can we can both testify to that and uh you know heaven is better
uh than this world but there's a work to be done here and we need to fulfill that purpose that God's ordained for us as you well know and our audience knows as well uh Brian that
i'm going to allow you to direct the story here uh and and what happened i will just
briefly say that you did die and it was from poisoning i think cholera had led into that
from some water that uh when you were younger so before getting too much into it
I'm going to turn it over to you and we'll hear this fascinating uh and life-changing story
amen to that well brothers and sisters and God i just and believers and non-believers i know
when someone said they die and they come back to life a lot of people have doubts I just let your your mind wonder and you decide oh if what happened to me happened because i'm
going to tell you what it's like to die without christ okay because ecclesiastes chapter 12 verses
5 through 7 says this it says for man goes to his eternal home and the mourners go about in the
streets remember your creator before the silver cord is loose or the golden bowl is broken are the
pictures shattered at the fountain or the wheel broken at the well then the duster will return to
the earth as it was and the spirit will return to god who gave it folks i never knew anything
really about the bible i grew up in a christian home but it didn't make me a christian and i didn't have any really bible training because where i grew up i just drifted into agnosticism
then in full blown militant atheism folks and in july 1980 in tucson arizona uh like ray uh like
my brother randy said i contracted what is known as cholera and who knows what else by drinking
contaminated water someone had left in a thermos while i was working at a local construction site
and the typical progression of cholera left me in a severe dehydrated state if you follow it
it's about three to four days into it your body goes into shock and you usually die at that point while i was at home i was lying in bed when it happened my breathing became in series of
just wheezing gasps i couldn't really do anything and just lay in bed uh that i had roommates at
the time but they went off to do some adventure up in the grand canyon so i was left alone that time
and so i looked around the room and i was amazed that i could see everything pristine clear because
i wear glasses i'm near-sighted and it was like uh it was like the alarm clock i could look at my
alarm clock and see it for twisting clear i could see my dog down there i could see the room i could
hear perfectly well and all of a sudden i took my last breath and i floated above my body like a lot
of people talk about this despite growing up in like i said the christian home uh i was really not
a christian instead i was a full-blown militant atheist i had a chip on my shoulder i had a
big axe to grind against humanity against god and being an atheist i tell you you're really angry
at god is what a lot of atheists are they're just mad at god and so that's the way i was i was mad
at god because of all the environment all the stuff that i saw and witnessed in my life just turned me against god okay and all this was about to radically change because i left my body as soon
as i left my body and took my last breath i no longer believed in atheism i'm telling you i was
like a swoosh and i floated upwards i was hovering above my body i looked down and i know my body was
kind of a kind of a white blue blotchy type thing and i didn't look too good my dog was whimpering
trying to lick my hand and i couldn't do anything i couldn't say lassie go get help you know
couldn't hear me i was floating above my body all the pain from the cholera and the excruciating
pain that i had left i felt actually very very good you know and then i drifted to the ceiling
through the ceiling went past the swamp cooler which was held together by a bandana on the lower
um bandana and baling wire through the screw holes because they're holding it together
and we didn't have air conditioning and it was hot and arizona we had a swamp cooler later when
i went up on the roof to change the filter voila i saw what i saw i never been up there before and
you can't see this from the ground floor because the way it's been concaved into the roof and so
little things like that proved to me that i had this experience and plus when i got back and i
was in the hospital everything like that but anyway when i went through the ceiling i went through a into a dark void it was very pleasant and there was a light off in the distance
and it was growing bigger as i was like slowly being propelled to it and i felt a profound love
i felt absolutely no pain i felt an overwhelming calm that i can't even describe
there was music and singing like a heavenly choir and that was singing about god actually and i
think it was uh there was an atheist a famous atheist i think his last name was ayers who was
who died and said he knew that he was approaching the governor of the universe that's kind of how i felt i was going to be approaching god and and i had no worries whatsoever everything felt good and
then i was going through there the music and the choir was singing in a different language and i know this will sound very strange to people but i could understand in my own language what was being
said and they were proclaiming the mysteries about god's character and nature and glorifying god
and some of the things they would say is like how god can't deny himself here he remains true to his
character those passages are actually found in the bible and as martin chapter 12 verse 26 reveals
he's the god of the living all that's explained you learn that since he's a god of living he's not going to extinguish you into a state of non-existence because that's contrary to who he is
you learn that god will not take back any gift calling promise as it's written in romans 11 29
that the gifts and callings of god are irrevocable you learn things like god gave us the gift of life
he placed eternity in our hearts like ecclesiastes 11 and chapter 3 verse 11 says and ii samuel 14
14 verifies where it says yet god does not take away life yes the mortal flesh dies but our
spiritual essence our spiritual man continues onward so i was floating in that dark void in
this peaceful void and while i was floating there bits and pieces of my life would flash before me
as i approached the light and i i witnessed myself like in school and uh i watched school
movies media and bullies uh how they shaped me to think that being good and decent was oppressive
and restrictive and needed to be overthrown for the new it sound familiar right a where there
was a i lived my life as a do as thou will type thing with a slap in the face toward god who i
thought at the time could not really exist letting the world go to heck in a hand basket so to say
and moving through this pleasant darkness i was oblivious that i was heading toward a reckoning
and the light grew bigger and more profound and i felt this incredible love i never realized i
was headed toward a reckoning and i got closer to the light and the light was coming from a big rock
suspended in in space and it was on this rock with a person who the light was coming out of i can't
describe the degrees of light i can't describe the colors of light because your natural eyes
can't see this it was dazzling but this light was coming from the person standing upon this big rock
suspended in this void and it's like i read psalms let's see what was that psalms 104
verse 2 says the the lord covers himself as with the light as a
and i landed feet first before him on this rock and i felt like i stood before him and i fell down
i mean i literally was not flat and um it was like i i felt like a dead sack of weed on the ground
i was still alive but i felt dead and someone from behind picked me up and i always talk about
he didn't really grip me feels like he had crazy glue on his hand and he stood putting me up and stood me right in front of this individual the lord okay and i want to tell you
i saw this being i knew it was jesus i knew it was the lord and he had a hood over his face
and when you meet the lord you know it and it is true when the bible says it's a fearful thing
to fall into the hands of a living god let me explain why because as hebrews 9 27 talks about
after one dies comes the judgment a judgment that you can't weasel your way out of you can't nothing
nothing you couldn't not weasel out of it you cannot sell or yourself you cannot say that a
crazy sign fell on my head and that's why i act so stupid you you can't give any excuses and um
then i did not realize at the time when i was standing there that this that god's love was
judging me i was going to be judged by god's love as a final reckoning and that was scary because um
it sounds really good to be judged by god's love you know well that i got let me just clear clarify
some things in your mind you see god's love has boundaries and if god's love had no boundaries
love cannot be love at all with boundary there comes responsibility with responsibility comes
free moral will as a gift and god is absolutely just in ways our minds cannot fathom so
it is his love and so with his love he designed free moral will and that proves that he cannot
deny himself in what he does if he would deny free moral will that would prove god is not
omnipotent or all-powerful how so people ask me that well god would be unable to rule and reign
over free moral beings out of fear you couldn't you would just have to make a puppet master pull all the strings that would not mean he's all-powerful you're an all-powerful being is
the ability to rule and reign no matter the free moral agency a person has okay
he'll carry out his plans and the sovereign will no matter what true free moral will of individuals
that's all powerful the things like that is what i kind of learned from this experience
i hope that helps and if i may interject brian you were at the time you were an atheist so you
did not know jesus prior to this and and neither were you really familiar even though you had
parents who were believers neither did you know the bible or any of these things that
were happening to you they were foreign to you and then god was foreign to you was he not
oh yes yes when i was a young christian i think i might i talked to my mom and i can't remember my
age it could have been four or five and they took me to the southern baptist church and there was
a revival meeting and baptism and this was before air conditioning and so and so i asked my mom
uh what baptism was they told you go in water and i said mom i want to get baptized i want to
know jesus i know my little mind i i remember this plainly as a it was a pool i could dive
and do my swimming dive into the pool that i just learned and so that's how little kids
think so i don't know if that had anything to do with it but i remember when i came home i did not get baptized my mom says no you can't get baptized until you know what you're doing
and because she knew that i would probably take a swan dive or something and so i i remember i came
up coming home singing oh how i love jesus but after that i fell away big time that was about
my only thing that i could actually say happened and so i did not really have any background but
actually i always tell people that you know who bullwinkle and rocky is remember those cartoons
yeah bullwinkle and rocky they they they corrupted me they corrupted my youth yes they had this guy
on there named sherman and his time machine and so this guy would go in this time machine and go
see philosophers and all that stuff and being a geeky kid i would start reading philosophy books
you know at 10 years old or whatever i really did i started reading this stuff of course
our vocabulary back in when i was growing up was a lot better than this today but anyway i
was reading this stuff and that dripped it off into different philosophies that led me astray
through a winkle cartoon to tell people that and so i drifted into an agnosticism i couldn't
understand why all the bad stuff happened in the world like most people can't and why it all is and
how it is and so i was this militant uh agnostic for a while there could be a god may not be a god
and i balance between atheism and agnosticism so eventually into full-blown atheist atheism
and that's what happened and it's all just how my life course watching things and events things
that happened to me and everything like that just convinced me that god can't be in control
and so a lot of why the lord was speaking to me and showing me this stuff and why i came back
with me and why i wrote my testimony this way was you know he was challenging me
my own questions that i used against him to disprove god he was answering them while i died
and he also said something i'm sorry he also said something that is uh very interesting in
that he said you could not enter heaven no oh jesus was precluding you from entering heaven
tell us about that yeah i um basically how can i say this um i was being judged by god's love and
what he was judging me is how god freely gave the gift of life and all this stuff but i justified my
betraying other people abandoning people rejecting people and using people like a commodity that's
what i was doing i placed burdens on people and my parents they could not bear in other people i
mock people i scoff people especially christians i sold drugs to the southern baptist youth group and
corrupted youth and i bore false witness against anybody who i did not like and i felt totally
justified of doing so and i got asked questions of people do you do the same thing you know i saw
every single one of my excuses ever made i to get out of a jam i saw the relationships i crucified
i saw the money i stole out of uh my parents wallets everything then i saw how good god was
to me before i die despite what i was like like before it was like an instant replay like i always
you know like so many different examples of of near car wrecks and one eye was my sister and i
were going down to shepherdstown west virginia going down the hill there and we hit a patch of
oil and i did three 360s on a two-lane road with oncoming traffic there's a cliff on the other side
going into the shenandoah river i was drinking beer like an idiot and um and going in reverse
my tire almost went over the edge but something stopped me and people got out and asked if i was
okay and someone actually came out and handed me a beer said you need this and i drove off and my
sister and i had a good time right now she was all shook up but god spared my life constantly
he kept showing me things he showed me i gained good parents he gave me people and i blew smoke
in their face no other way to put it and so god's love judged me for i like this he showed me really
personally how i manipulated his love goodness and mercy for my own ends i really did but it's all
revealed by how i treated my family myself strangers i treated god i create treated his
creation and again you know how about some of you listening you know have you done the same thing
and so we can't get to the point here it was like it was dawned on me and i don't know
how to explain it other than this is that if i was allowed into heaven in this fallen state i
would continue the same things in heaven because what's to stop me like how i once reasoned that
if there what is a god and he's all loving then uh then i can make heaven no matter what i do
but i found out that was a lie i found out that god places eternity in the heart like ecclesiastes
chapter 3 11 says and once we die we enter our real spiritual being who we really are and we're
sealed that way forever in the book of genesis chapter 2 the lord spoke to adam and that day eat
of this tree you you will surely die but it's in hebrew it's a double emphatic it's the same word
used twice you will die die you will die death you will die you will die die that's two deaths
and the bible talks about the first death the first resurrection and there's a second death
in the in the lake of fire very very profound in those things there's things like that that
i was seeing wearing for the first time when i came back and read the bible just knocked my socks off no other way to put it and so um so when i'm on my way to standing before the lord
i learned so much about his goodness and his mercy and who he is in his character traits
i would continue to use that as a leverage tool to pit god's character traits against
him god in order to continue to do what i always done and god will not allow that and
so i was i was being judged in uh what a wretch i was no other place or how else i can say it
because if you were allowed in heaven in a fallen state thinking that you can be changed somehow
that one not you would just simply corrupt it and what you do in life is proof enough that you would
because we all like i said in my book you make life ugly on this so we can't walk into heaven
because god's love will somehow change us in the afterlife i gotta tell you folks it's a pipe dream
adam and eve i want you to think about it had it made in the garden and they blew it
and you think that in a fallen state you if god allowed you that you would continue and somehow be
changed no you would not you die in your state you're sealed in that spiritual state that you die
and you want to be found with jesus not without because god placed eternity in the heart the
eternity seals the deal in fact there's a scripture and i quoted a lot isaiah 26 10 says let
grace be shown to the transgressors yet he will not learn righteousness because in the land of
uprightness which speaking of heaven he will deal unjustly will not behold the majesty of the lord
and so you know everything that happened to me i when i came back and allowed to come back i
went in only place i found answers was the bible i found so many scriptures that answered questions
that verify my experience it just blocking out my socks off so uh let's kind of get back on a
roll here so i stood before the lord and i noticed that i was wearing this like filthy
robe-like outfit it was really gross i mean it was like a judo suit was all torn it was just filthy
a filthy rag-like outfit and i was standing before him i was fully guilty of everything i
had no excuses or god left no stone unturned and it was terrifying in fact i think that
standing before the lord is more terrifying than hell because you're totally uncovered you're
totally undone and you're like i don't have a leg to stand on and i i always say this quote
i do it a lot when i do the meetings it says um we deserve god's wrath we do not deserve mercy but
what happened to me was i found grace instead and i can't explain it has totally radically changed
my life and because i know i'm a rich and i don't deserve any mercy whatsoever i deserve
hell i know that for a fact but god's great grace saved me for whatever reasons and purposes he has
and so i owe christ my life that's all i got to say but when i was standing there the lord would
speak to you and thought no other way to say it was speaking to me in thought telling me that i would see a land unknown that's best forgotten but not to be left unseen that's why i titled
my book that because he just resonated in my mind because that's what he said and when he said that
all kinds of it's like unpacking an encyclopedia of knowledge with each word it's like a tapestry
interconnects and explains things in ways i can't even articulate right now and so so he spoke to
me says when i arrive at this particular place and you feel a sense of overwhelming say my name
and my title jesus christ and i didn't i knew his name was jesus christ and people asked me what did
jesus look like if i didn't see his face he had a hood over his face i knew if he would have pulled
back his hood it would not we would not be good it would be a judgment and and he said that it would
be an option to be decided if you were going to be able to return he said that to me and then i
i he pointed to off to his left and you know he had holes in his wrist i could see he looked like
his beard was yanked out and parked i could see his beard and there's cake blood there and for some sense i got a sense i yanked his beard i mean i i i nailed the nails and that's
what i was thinking at the time even though i wasn't around then it was like i did that
but how i live my life proved it you know and oh boy and so he said an option for you is to be
decided if you return or not so i was lifted up and carried into a uh like a a gate opened like
a scroll and i went through it i found myself in a vortex like the inside of a tornado and it
smelled horrible it was quite hot and i could hear all these sounds all this hideous noise i could
hear this hellish language that i can't really describe and yet i could understand parts of it
and so i was spinning in this void and i was heading toward a yellow light this time wasn't the
beautiful light i've seen it was a different color light and it was a more like a flame colored light
and in this green uh vortex just spun around like inside of a tornado and i hit that yellow light
and fell through the sky and bounced on the ground real quick and i thought well you know i did have
enough um relatives who were christians who told me about hell being flaming fire and devils with
pitchforks and stuff but i didn't see any of that at first what i saw was a house on a hill
and a little valley between a steep hill going in the valley and off in the distance was this
uh house and a dilapidated dead looking tree it was exceedingly hot and you know you're like bill
whis would say it's like so hot you feel like your eye your eyes would melt or your tongue would melt
you know that's how hot it felt and all that came a little bit later but um excuse me it was running
but um so i was standing there looking at that house and i saw all these people come out of
the house running down the hill going into the valley and then more people came out and they
were welcoming me to paradise slapping me on the back says welcome to paradise brian so glad you
came here all your friends are here you know little tidbits of information that i used to
argue with christians about because i used to argue with christians about when they come to witness to you here it was like this tug i was having my arguments thrown in my face in a real
life situation and so they were slapping my back saying i entered paradise and so i
looked down and this one guy um who wasn't really a friend anymore with acquaintance but i knew
him through school and so forth he was a he's a character he's a mean dude and i said you can't
possibly be in paradise i mean the reason i said that is that i had a party at my house when i was
my parents went someplace and i had the house i had a big party he came to it he left with another
friend and as they were going up to the shopping center about a month about half a mile away they
were behind the shopping center he mouthed off the people and he was killed with a double barrel shotgun on a drive-by shooting because he mouthed off to the people kind of the area i lived in so
no i just knew this guy couldn't be there i kept seeing people who i thought or died or know who died but they didn't look quite right and every time i said that you can't
be here he would drift off and change into another entity another person and i kept seeing that
and all of a sudden things started to change and they started to be piranha-like they were
circling me and i felt a sense of overwhelming and i all of a sudden i looked at their eyes and
they were like alligator eyes with yellow irises and i i felt it overwhelming and i remembered
to say his name and his title jesus christ i said jesus christ jesus christ jesus christ faster than that i said it like a machine gun and when you die you really don't breathe but
kind of air comes out of you so to facilitate speech if you want to talk so i could say jesus
christ jesus christ like a machine gun non-stop the whole time i was there without stopping or taking a breath because you don't really breathe it's kind of strange to talk about
and so all these entities morphed into what they were they were a hellish looking being some i
found myself surrounded by these entities look like gargoyles without wings some of them look
like ancient pagan deities or these um that's what they call the prasus and other entities of the
mesopotamian war particularly in the egyptian war and that's what i was kind of surrounded in and
some of these look like rotting vegetables it's really it's hard to say because you could try to design a horror show you could not design
these creatures really too good maybe with some special effects you could but
but these these entities were horrible others look like deformed beings of various sizes some
were reptilian some were insect-like they're an amphibian like some like frogs these were foul
devious beings and they all rushed me to tear me apart and i kept saying jesus christ jesus christ
and they could um i learned this valuable lesson then in there they could punch me they could touch
me they couldn't grab hold of me when i said jesus christ they kept the respectful distance but they would punch once in a while and they tried to grab you but i say jesus christ i learned this power in
the name of jesus that is that is very amazingly telling uh brian because jesus then had if i'm uh
and correct me if i'm wrong as i'm hearing this jesus told you to declare his name in hell yeah
and what you found in hell was when you declared his name they could not devour you yes they
yeah they yeah devour you bite you or drag you because they would they would eat you alive i don't know no no other way to put it and so you know for years afterwards i had a
nightmare sometimes i still have a little bit but these things and so this one entity came up to me
it was about four foot eight and i nicknamed them and uh then i called them lizard breath
it was my nickname so if i call lizard breath you know who i'm talking about and so he he came up to me and he said i offer you half my kingdom
and come follow me off you have my kingdom i wrote more about it in the book i land unknown hell's
dominion but and so he walked he said follow him so i didn't know what else to do i was following
this thing saying jesus christ jesus christ and he went to the edge of the horizon and he ripped
the horizon open and stepped up out out of this place i followed him you know i went back i looked
back and there was i was i came out of a cell a cube you know bill we said about 14 by 14 in my
book i said 10 by 10 the reason why i said 10 by 10 because 10 is three letters 14 is more
so we're trying i say 10 by 10. i couldn't really tell you the dimensions i don't think bill whis could either tell you so you describe it as a cube a cube transparent cube it was had it wasn't yeah
it was transparent in certain places and you were granted permission you could see inside of it so
i came out of this thing i looked inside inside was the biggest all outdoors but it was so small
and uh then i turned around and i saw this wide road of destruction and this circular thing in the
open area in the middle i looked up and looked like i was in a pit and it reminded me of how a spiral staircase looked and i'll describe some of that in this you know in a minute because
there's this horrible roar that came when he opened that place up i saw where i was and
i stepped up out of that tear in the wall stood on that road looking uh back inside like i said
it was all big as all outdoors but what is inside was a small cube and then there were
cubes pressed against each other going under a circular way and there was each cube was stacked
six high and there was the roof or the ceiling which would be the road above uh where you were and you can't explain it other than that and i found out later in the book of uh
in the bible at different places i was in a place called the pit the bible calls it the pit of hell
it was a hellish place it was hot it was dry the heat waves were coming off the like arizona
or texas when it's heat waves are coming off the pavement that's what it was like hot rocks would glow there are some flames here and there and in the middle of this pit across this hellish broad
way i noticed these tornado-like vortexes coming through and dropping people off in the cubes and
on the road some people were being escorted by the gaggles of these entities and pushed into cubes
that's what i was seeing it's the best way to describe this pit would be like a spiral staircase
after i got back came back i actually drew a stock spiral and tried to take notes and stuff
that happened that's what i based my book on and it was like the stairs would be the
be the uh the wide dusty road the cubes would be the bricks in the wall and in the middle was
an open area where there was uh no no beginning and no end like there's a bottomless pit no other
way i can describe it and and so and the roof above my head was the stairway above you because
you're going to spiral staircase and each level of spit board degree just degrees of recompense
what you sow is what you reap people above me were receiving less and the people below me were
receiving more and don't be fooled the cubes would move with the click any uh over time or
um it's a different type of concept of time than what we have it would click and you'd go lower and lower and lower and one way with each move down going down like this conveyor belt type thing was
uh the more of your sin nature who you really are like is being exposed okay
so i found this later in ezekiel chapter 32 23 describes this very pit again i add the ancient
hebrew word meaning for clarity and it says this says whose graves graves means chambers and cells
are set in the sides of the pit and her company is circled round about her chambers and cells
proverbs talking about chambers of death and in isaiah chapter 24 it talks about this place being
like a dungeon with cells and it's very biblical what i saw on their road there was these hellish
beings and they were various site heights and sizes and shapes the taller ones had more power
over the smaller ones and so something like i said there was escorting people they were in going
around and so lizard breath who i called that uh start talking to me and i could never really get
an accurate picture of because his breath was so foul or distort his face so i could never tell you how many eyes he had you couldn't tell you had one two three or four it looked like multiple
eyes because his breath was so foul it was just distorting his face and and he looked like a
little reptilian dinosaur best i can put and i later found a picture uh not a picture actually
near where i live there's a sculpture garden it was put in and they actually put a sculpture of
the closest thing that resembled lizard breath i could find this was back in the early 2000s
and i pointed it to my brother-in-law and he's i said that's lizard breath
and so i looked over at it and it was an introductory thing and it had it just freaked me out and on this introductory thing it said the traveler this is an african lore
this was african lord this thing was called the traveler who would escort people to death
so that that kind of freaked me out when i saw that thing i said that that looks like lizard breath and that was close do you have any um idea of who he was i know satan is
uh portrayed in the bible as well yeah satan is not in hell okay yes there's other entities
there but these these are some fallen uh these are demonic beings fallen angels whatever they
are well this would i think this would be a demon you know this thing was and and brian the
individuals that you were seeing who are captive i know we're going to get to an incredible
view that our appearance that god gave to you or at least you had
in hell but the people that you saw that in the spiral staircase that were going
back and forth and who were in these various places um these graves of sorts
did you have an impression whether they had died previously and this is where theirs
their soul was reposited or were they still living in this world um these people died
and they were judged and sentenced there and so that's what i saw and so i saw when i walked by
the cells because this thing entity motioned me to follow it back to we walked out to the
to the open area and saw the tornado vortexes and i went and he took me like a tour of hell and the
only thing i could say is a like tour of hell and went over to the cubes again and when i looked
inside of each cell i was granted discernment uh i had i knew their life history in an instant
and so people when they died whatever era of time they died in was that's what they saw inside their
cell i could see what they saw i could hear or it's different dimension i can't describe it
i could i could feel what they could feel i could hear what they were hearing i could see what they were going through as well as what the demons were doing to them and that was an amazing thing
give you a couple of examples people ask me well what's hell like what's these cells like they're like waking up in a non-ending living nightmare that never ends and it's the recompense
that's all i got to say and so people in these cubes were not being tormented or tortured by god
that's another myth it's it's what they've done in life allows that to happen to them
and so that's important to know where you said that brian this is not of god this is
apart from god this is like the the trash bin of uh of existence here yeah yeah in matthew 25
hell was originally designed for the devil and his minions are his ain't fallen angels and the demons and stuff but um but people who want to follow that the god of this world the devil
you know you're part of his minions it's you need jesus christ you need to avoid this place
and because nothing there's no there's no amount of being reformed in hell at all
in other words what was happening was that people were becoming worse because i look inside there they're becoming worse in fact job chapter i don't know i'm doing this from memory uh joke 24
25 or 26 the first few verses talks about abaddon has no covering and a hell has no covering and
people or the dead travail and wail in this place and that's what i saw because hill has no covering
everything inside of you is uncovered and whatever and i'll explain for example i saw this uh
witch former witch and probably died probably early
60s i would say and this happened to me 1980. so this person was inside of a coffin scratching to
get out and the reason why she was scratching to get out and i knew this because she cursed people's she cursed she actually cursed to death people's hopes and dreams and potential goodness
and with a reckless hate and she deemed as pleasant and wise to bring forth some sort
of luciferian light and illumination because she thought lucifer was so much more willing to
give you all your wants and now she's trapped in the coffin because she would bury people with her
spells and incantations she wasn't a lower level which she was a highly initiated one one that knew
what she was doing she taught others how to be initiated and brought him into this um i call it
a sick lifestyle and starts out like a honeymoon period but then i saw all this and then later it's
the real dark side comes and i won't get into all that but she was in the real dark side and
so then i saw these people you know being offered stuff you know and they would always choose
what made them worse i can't describe other than that i saw this guy who was abuser he probably died in the 1950s tapping his hands on the table and i knew that
he would he was abused as a kid and he grew up as an abuser and beat his family he died
and then now he's in here hearing his father browbeat him and how he browbeated his sons
and daughters and he was experiencing what he met it out i saw an old-time lecherous unsaved
and i say unsaved revival preacher who died in the 1820s in the southwest part of a kentucky you know
the south will be southeast kentucky southwest virginia area and there was a great revival back
then those day i think was called the kane patch revival i'm not mistaken but anyway this preacher
died there he loved to mock the bible to get his way with the ladies no other way to say it
he thought that it was good food and pleasant to the eyes wouldn't make him wise because you know these peasants that's what he viewed the people as peasants and they're easily fooled he
can milk them for every dollar they could get you know and food and staying at places and
have his way with the with the girls there's no other way to say it but there he was in a cell
and he's preaching at this tint revival outside there and all their all these people inside the cell were not people he saw them as people but they were demonic chords
and they got up and began beating him with a big black book that looked like the bible it wasn't the bible it's just a prop and beating him with it and he had run and that scene inside the cell
would change to a new scene and this entity came through went through the cute the roof of the cube
came down and put a cloven foot on his chest and began choking him and i walked to the next
cell those are the type of things i i saw i saw a wealthy guy that died probably in ancient days
and he was bored out of his mind totally bored and then people came and he was so excited to have
something to do most people that i saw there were incredibly bored out of their mind and nothing
and they were isolated and alone that's where he was and people came over there were demons and they got a party and they end up throwing them outside into the dust of the street and
they did that because he stepped on people to get ahead he like he would take entire areas of the
pagan city that he was from and say i want that i want these peasants out of here flatten it and
build some great temple or something like that for the gods that's the type of person he was he just
did things for himself and invest investments back then too and that's what he did invest in his own
ploys and schemes coming back to haunt him and i saw another lady that uh this lady loved the toy
with people's lives like a mouse you know she's like a cat drags in the mouse i had cats you know they drag them in and they play with this mouse and they you know
and that's what this lady treated people i saw her reaping what she saw i saw a lady from africa
down by the river washing clothes and she used to make fun of other people especially christians and stuff and she uh was down there being mocked and beaten
and ostracized by the whole community like she would pit the whole community
against certain people she did not like to get them to do their her bidding and that was
happening to her and things like that i'd go along in this kaleidoscope real brief snippets like that
brian this is um such a week we were talking before the show here uh that there's a kindredness
that we share with afterlife experience one of the things that impressed me was that i could remember
vividly everything that i experienced with jesus in heaven i was a believer going into afterlife
but i could not recall uh the failures because and the lord revealed you know i removed them as
far as the easter eggs from the west so they're gone that you know i asked forgiveness and what have you uh but what you're saying is that in hell these failures these sins are perpetually psyching
and you cycling recycling and you were made aware of these so you had this and you had this
deep uh insight into what they had done and it's as though there's a haunting of um of those sins
and those failures and those persecutions of others that's incredible that that's correct it's
like just that's why i always call it recompense it's payback i mean and uh it's a terrible thing
and so there's so much you have to get my book to get all the details i can't get into every single
thing that i saw there in an interview but on page 81 of the book i mentioned a place where i
saw this t intersection we walked back you could actually go between the cubes and go back and
and it was like how bricklayer would make a circle out of bricks there were little gaps in there a little and i would go through these areas and they'd be filled with these
these demons and these demonic creatures in there and all i could say in jesus christ jesus christ
and leave me alone but they were doing their their hardest to get me the curse god cursed them curse
myself cursed the devil curse everything and in order to have me but i wouldn't do it all i could
say with jesus christ i was too scared i wanted to wake up so bad but you can't wake up you can't
and so we went to this place and i call it a grand hallway and i talk about green drapes hanging down
went through this t intersection and i look back on i saw these people being escorted again
and there's a t intersection like an entrance into hell and hell has a wide mouth of people streaming
thousands of people streaming into this place and these big tall entities going reminding me of the
concentration camps where one person will point to the right or left and that's which way the people would go but these entities were huge and tall and they were chained we do not i'm not allowed
to go no more i would say 300 yards close to him because we went to another location it always left
such an impression upon me and i know the bible talks about uh the fallen watchers being changed
to into the deepest recesses of the pit this could have possibly been the border of that
and they were showing the worst of the worst of humanity one direction to go where it's really bad
and the other is to go different levels i just left an impression upon me and the
reason i say this is because the ambiance of these creatures was incredible they were very seductive
there's no other word to put it and they seem like they know more about human nature than you could imagine they know how to use human chemistry to use emotions to generate
chemistry in the body to addict you to pornography or addicted you to something and they knew it very
very well and the reason i bring this up is that i was coming back from the reservations preaching
and from i think it was about i did i worked from up there from 2011 up to the covid period
hope to get back there shortly but i it was about 2014 15 i was coming back and i noticed
i could feel the presence those presences again and i'm going especially when i got into colorado
where i live and and it was getting worse every time i come back was getting worse and i kept
feeling it's getting worse and worse and all of a sudden it's really worse i feel them i feel this
these entities their presences even now and i can't explain that but that's kind of why
i brought that up that's kind of what i saw and then we went back and i could go and with these cubes roaming against you you look inside the cells and stuff and then we came back to
this to this into the pit area where the where i was where the wide dusty road was we kind of going down a little bit further and further and we just went past
sell after cell and i wrote in a book my book the chapter and i want to illustrate this chapter
because the more i think about it this is i think why the lord brought me back and i call the
chapter dear pudding and dear pudding i saw this lady who died and she recently died when i died
and she dropped and deposited into a cell right in front of me and uh and through a tornado
vortex she stood there in front of this cell and knocked on the door because she saw her own mind
she didn't see hell she saw she saw this was my grandparents farm she knocked on the door before
she could knock her grandmother open the door and she went into the cell and we and so this lizard breath and i walked up and looked inside and so i just stared and stared for the longest
time with this i knew all about her life history in a second and she thought she was a great mother
and great you know she was perfect she was ahead of the pta and she was she was a pillar of the
community and all these things and people would call her the best and nicest person in the world but what you didn't see was her secret self she had kids and she said say you you know you will
not be an astronaut you will not be a truck driver you will not be a homemaker you're going to be a
dentist you're going to be a doctor and get a hair brush and beat her kids until they submit
that's a side no one saw she was a control freak and had this image and so that's why she was there
and so she was there and then she thought she was in paradise now if she was resuscitated
right then and there she would have because science can resuscitate you from the dead
you know in a certain amount of time she would have came back at that instant she would be an ophra and all the talk shows saying don't be afraid to go to the light don't be afraid because
you're going to paradise you know i saw paradise it was lovely there i met my grandmother and all
my dead relatives were meeting me they're greeting me there very similar to what happened to me when
i entered seeing people coming up to me and saying welcome brian to paradise i was not in paradise
and she wasn't in paradise and so i wrote that chapter let me finish this here and what's this
chapter and here she is um and her deception was so incredible and she could see this grand place
in her grandparents farm that she loved as a kid and her grandmother said come dear pudding let's
go out back went out the back there's your favorite spot over by there you have eternity here
you know can't you feel the love here and the love there is not god's love it is an eerie sick love
it's a deceptive love and she goes yes grandmother i do says i'm going to go back inside dear pudding
and bake you bake you your favorite cookies and now i could see her grandmother as the demonic
entity all the chairs all everything was an entity that gave the illusion of a prop now she walked it
was like the floor would move and the scene in her mind would change even though she was in a small
cell best i can describe would be like star trek the next generation they had that holodeck thing
it's very similar to that and she was in a small thing and this and she went over to her favorite place was by a look like a stream there was no water in hell and absolutely none
but she saw a water it's an illusion she reached her hand in it and pulled up sand and then she
was just under shades of these two trees but they were like uh i'd call them um squid-like
entities look like trees to her with all these tentacles like branches and and they had eyes i just remember this and that's like you know you want to say don't sit
you can't say nothing you're standing there saying jesus christ watching this and you know that what an evil person she was and control freak she was now she beat her kids
and how she tormented her husband how she did everything to get her away and on the surface she made herself look like a saint and she was and she reached in there and said i'm not in paradise
then those three tentacle things reached and grabbed her and she screamed so loud i can still hear it today it freaks me out and we turned and we kept going to an x cube
and so i say that is that people who die in all these ned experiences that are so pleasant
um deception i saw deception i saw people arrive in this place thinking they met their
ancient gods or their pagan gods only to wake up too late that they were deceived
thinking that they are in paradise and the reason why a lot of these people come back and i talk to some of these folks and they don't believe me that's fine because
it's an overwhelming experience to die as you know randy to come back and these people you
know i tried to talk to him but you know you were deceived oh no i wasn't well i understand what you're saying because i saw it and uh so this deception and so if they're re
brought back to life too soon they'd carry the devil's lie that you can live any way you all
please you're gonna make heaven you're gonna be in paradise you're going to meet all your dead relatives so forth etc and that's exactly what i saw saw it time and time again in that place
i'm mesmerized you said something interestingly enough uh to begin before we started you said
you know i knew you had to me you said you i knew you had an nd before i knew you had
an nde inside yeah and i and i when i first heard about you my spirit resonated this is not only the
real deal this is a critical message for today by virtue of what you just said and all of the
things that you've shared and we need to get to the one that's uh pressing please we have a large
jewish audience in our viewing audience um that there are so many nde stories that people come
back with and they're talking about paradise that this is wonderful and the light and all of these
attractive things and what you're expressing is that that is the deception you know and g
and satan was an angel of light just deceiving he will come and we had um ivan uh was with us and
he and he saw satan as this brilliant looking being just attractive looking but anyway um
thank you for sharing that we do have a large viewing audience my father was a world war ii
that uh hero who uh fought in uh to um free uh the people from the control of nazi germany and japan
there is one person in particular and this begs the question is some people have said how far
does god's redemption go or the redemption of jesus um this one individual when people are
asked to identify the most evil person and certainly in modern history that has ever
ever walked this earth and they say well could he be have been redeemed at the last moment but
you have an answer to that in what you uh saw in hell yeah well make a long story short i left from
there we went between the cubes and went into this particular place in the back recesses of this pit
and we're going down in lower levels so i don't know remember how many levels we're down and we came to one of these cells and i saw some of the nazis some people who don't know
ukrainian guards that were shooting people and i actually saw a picture and saw actually saw the whole film it was not just a still shot was a film of these people
being i knew the terrain i knew everything uh and i saw the it was freaking me out i go man i
never saw this film before until that that day not too long ago and i go wow you know another
verification but people like that were in there and they were experienced being shot and killed
came to um they call him the blonde butcher and he's the guy that was killed in
he stuff he orchestrated and laid the foundation for the final solution and he was killed in
czechoslovakia in 1942 he was down there and then i walked to another place and then there's all
these entities around and all the stuff we came to this one particular cell and style i looked inside
of it and it was like the inside of a furnace and then it was adolf hitler you can't mistake him
he was like going through each person for however long it takes to cremate somebody or gas them he
was going through that over and over and over and over and over again and then suddenly and that'll probably change in a few billion years and it'll probably be something far worse later
on uh and that's what he was doing i just saw him at that point burning in there and yet
his he would flesh would be consumed in flames and burn off and come back on his skin i can't
explain it and he would feel the pain and yet he was getting violently angry the vile hate
that he had and people don't realize he was involved in heavy duty into the occult world
and that's pretty much the primacy of us of this power of deception was the use of luciferianism
if you want to know the truth and the ancient pagan nordic religions they practice and stuff
but anyway that's neither here nor there but he who's there being burned and i always called it is
like inside the places where they burn the bodies and for each one body at a time and experiencing
what those people went one body at a time as the victim and is responsible for you know the gas
chambers uh six million jews and i don't know how many other people eight or nine million
people were in the concentration camps died you'd be experiencing every single one of those
and he was going through as he has he put through uh so many jewish people through the through the
furnace um or not furnace but it was um through a poison release but he was going through that same
um destruction himself that he put countless others through and killing him yeah the part
i saw was just in their experience of flames but i knew intuitively that he experienced
the gas chambers he experienced being stripped he experienced being raped he experienced all
being buried alive just in all that stuff and put in back of bands too and die of carbon monoxide
poison where they got rid of the worthless eaters as they say the the dd people you know and uh
it was it was it was a horrible thing i mean
yeah it's a sense sure i mean we're all feeling it we're all feeling um
such a horrendous period in history and we have you know um this is this is a person they appeared i would imagine i'm discussing that
in some semblance of how he appeared uh in real life from uh yeah you can't mistake his
image and um enlightenment a little mustache and everything he looked like he uh the pictures of
him about 1945 where he was pinching some german kid soldier on the cheek that guy survived the war
and talked about that but um he was bent over he was i mean i don't know i think what some people
said that he might have parkinson or parkinson induced by the drugs that he was being given
you know the amphetamines that he was getting getting he was a drug addict people didn't don't know that but they've come out with that and dr morrell gave him shots and some methamphetamine
actually a synthetic form of that's what he gave him he was reliving reliving that same hellish
experience that he put others through and um we can confirm certainly through your account that um
you know god is a god all the all those people all those people were getting it they
they all they all are i saw a lot of them and also people from way long time ago
ancient days that did horrible things to other people soldiers whatever i saw that as well
yes the syrian armies are still excavating ruins where
people were beheaded and sadly we see many of those same practices in certain parts of the world
so gotta ask you brian and i know we're coming to a close here but there are people that are
watching this and they're saying you know i i want to make sure that i don't go there
i want to know that i know that when i die that i will meet jesus and he'll say welcome
so what happened to you when you came back from the salacious um experience of hell what what
happened well it was shortly after seeing that i caught the lower this lower area where i saw these
nazi folks and people that were i call a level where a lot of people are involved in the occult a
lot of people don't know that when i was younger i got involved in the mind science stuff i didn't i
was an atheist but i thought you can use the power of the mind and so i came to this open cube in the
back recesses of the pit and all these entities were inside of and i knew this is where i belonged
this is it and uh and i was weakening i could hardly say jesus christ anymore and i
was scared out of my wits and uh i didn't know what to do but i knew this was it and this was
my this is where my cell where we entered would be and uh with all these nasty people and um so
i was like my feet were in a dusty mirey goo it was dust but gooey and these little wormy
things would come out of the ground with teeth and yellow blasphemies and these white moths would float around and they have faces on the teeth i'm sitting there and all these entities in
there trying to get me into this cell saying and i realized when that thing was telling me he offered
half the kingdom i didn't realize he was going to have the half the kingdom of hell to torment me that was the reward they were going to give me you know it's like wow that's why the cell was open
and so inside there it looked like a dentist chair but i knew it was not a dentist's chair i knew it was an entity that gave the illusion of the dentist chair i'm nothing against dentist i
can go to sleep get my teeth drilled doesn't bother me one bit but uh so we're being propelled
in this place and i i was having my wits in i didn't know i i was totally abandoned by god
i felt like this was the end uh this is this is where i knew i deserved this in place and i still
know it and this is where i deserved to be and all of a sudden i felt a presence coming up behind me
and the entities there were getting agitated and i thought well whoever's coming up behind me must
be great authority it must be the devil himself with his pitchfork he's just going to throw me in and my mind was wondering and so my mind would wonder saying i could just imagine you know
my parents would have a funeral for me you know things go through your mind i can't can't explain it and so you're going through your mind that to have a funeral and the preacher would say oh brian
was a good old boy there's no way i could tell my parents i was in a bad place i couldn't tell anybody i wanted to tell everybody to avoid this place i couldn't i knew this this was my fate this
is where i deserve to be this is my full nature sin nature is totally exposed i saw my ugly pride
for what it is and what it does and and i felt this presence coming behind me and i thought that
presence was going to throw me into this place because i did not want to go and i was being pushed by a force into it even though my feet weren't moving and the dirt was going over my
feet and stuff and all those worms going around coming out of the ground i won't get into all that
and so as soon as i all of a sudden i heard footsteps and the footsteps would shake the ground
or boom boom and and all of a sudden the entities took off out of that cell and hid and got out of
there and then all that time if i start crying i after all these years it does it does this is um
every time i talk about this it's hard um there's jesus he was behind me and he picked me up and um
and i i i saw the holes in his wrist and his bones pulled apart i lost it because i knew i
pulled his bones apart i put him on the cross even though i wasn't there by how i betrayed abandoned people backstabbed them put burdens on them and um i just wept on the shoulder
and he carried me out of there and uh god and i never cried so hard in my life
because i do not deserve to be rescued it's very hard for people to understand
so my concept of grace is quite different than most people um grace is not greasy
grace is not uh cheap because it's free it came with a great cost he was nailed to a cross and
we got to realize that we were wretches and we nailed them to him we deserve wrath not mercy and i found grace instead and that's how you get saved is and you realize just
well anyway i was brought out of that pit trying to collect myself here and um we went back to the cell i entered into and it went back
we both went through that tornado-like vortex and um in just a minute sorry well
in the bible when lazarus not the lazarus who was jesus raised from the tomb but it was lazarus who
was a man that this is an account of jesus who was in hell and said you know just tell my relatives
basically my loved ones that that hell is a real place and that's you know essentially what you're
what you're doing now jesus is giving you this for him to to share that but he said no they wouldn't
believe because you know if well yeah he took me out of there and then we came back out of the
tornado vortex went back to where i came to on that big rock suspended in space and
the light was coming from him i could see the holes in his feet and the nail prints in his
wrist i couldn't see his face he saw the hood on and he set me down and began to talk to me
and through thought and i'll have time to go through all that but he told me i was gonna
come back and he blew on me and i went back and i went back through the void heard all the music
and i came in right above my bed and there's the texture of the ceiling was a pearl twirled ceiling
texture it had a fold in it and in the full was a fingerprint of what the guy did the texturing
but you can't see the fingerprint because it's inside of a little you have to put your face up there and look down and know where to look even though it was there and after all this i did get
on a ladder and i looked up there and there was the fingerprint it was in there so so anyway he
uh i came back i landed i floated like a leaf and i planted feet first of my body
i woke up and could not breathe and it's like how the wind knocked out of you and i um i don't know
how and i know this is so foggy i just came out of it my neighbor must have found me or
whatever happened and he drew me in his truck and we proceeded to the hospital i died several times
on my way to the hospital because i described the trip my head was down looking at the floorboard you know he was holding me up and i asked him why did you run so many
red lights and you almost that white uh ford falcon there he almost hit you because how did your world did you know that that happened you go well i was floating above the truck
it was a cool ride and so so we got to the hospital that's where i got diagnosed my blood was
viscous um they were shaking their heads they gave me the saline solution they're not pumps they were
squeezing it into me the nurse they got a blood sample they got the cholera who knows what else
because it was polluted water i drank and um and then i don't know how long i was there it's just
and i did not want anyone to give me any pain medicine or go back to sleep i just wanna i i i
grabbed the doctor and said am i still in the cube and he was from india and he said no mr melvin
you're in a hospital in tucson arizona who's president i'm sorry you know who's this who's that
who's know who's running for president who's running for president i said ronald reagan uh who's the president no jimmy carter uh where are you oh yeah i live at here's my phone number and
i passed that test and i said i better not talk about cubes to this guy and put me in one
i noticed when i i could breathe i was blowing on my wrist because i could breathe and so i
knew i was alive and so i came back and so i um when i got back home the guys that i rented the
rooms to were going to work and they would shake their head everybody found out about it i had some
pentecostal relatives there they they're the ones that came to the hospital
to get me and a friend of mine got me and drove me home but i never told my pentecostal relatives
what happened until after the fact but um i didn't know what to do with it so i got home
and they all left and i got my medicine and i had my uh juice i had to drink get
my electrolytes back up and gatorade so forth and so i sat in this beanbag chair and i said
said jesus um i never want to go back to that awful place take me i'm yours that's what i did
don't understand i deserve hell i don't i don't deserve to come back but he came down and got me
and i'm ever indebted to him for that so that's why i said take me i'm yours i'm serious there
wasn't just some intellectual gain this is a hard thing don't think i can't change my life i can't
do anything i'm take take it i'm yours so people want to get saved you need to know take it i'm
yours i surrender my stinking pride has caused me so much grief and like like um like in the bible
it talks about you don't want to be a religious guy thumping his chest about how great he is
and then where the sinner came before the lord said lord have mercy on me i'm a sinner
and who and jesus said who would be justified in god's sight well the guy who said have mercy on me i'm a sinner i'm a wretch i can't change myself take me out of yours that's how you get saved
that is how you get saved a lot of that aspect of the gospel is no longer
preached and settled for an intellectual type thing and not a heartfelt change
and so when you encounter the real jesus it's an unforgettable experience and
so i was ever indebted and grateful for allowed to come back and so he's taking me on quite a ride
and you have sir came back since there are you you serve on the native american reservations and
i know you told the story of of uh that as well which was uh interesting in that uh the native
americans oftentimes and many of the practices of the different tribes had a very spiritualism
you know not not christ-centered necessarily now they do many do uh worship uh jesus but
very spiritual and conjuring up of this person and that or this spirit and that spirit but and
you were seeing those spirits in hell that were influencing uh others that were living um in in
the in this age uh and you were seeing that you were seeing them conjuring up these things when
people you know say them the rants and they try to conjure up uh spirits and all of these things that
are apart from uh the angelic jesus beholding of jesus christ you were seeing those things
and you were seeing that and and now you're ministering uh to those on the reservations
um who are coming as i understand that uh many to know jesus as their lord and savior
as a result yeah it's an amazing thing to see but um if anybody doesn't know jesus christ it's just
you're maybe in their low point in your life or you realize that you ain't all that and you got a
lot of problems maybe you're hooked on pornography hooked on this stuff and you can't be free of it and stuff but just tanks you know lord have mercy on me change me you know like i tell people
we don't deserve god's mercy we deserve god's wrath but he's so willing to give grace instead
he gives grace to change and change your life so you're not held captive to these things
and he changes you and it's it's a process called sanctification in it that's another thing people
don't teach on too much anymore and they do a salesman job in the church i think people know
what i'm talking about but you know you just come to christ he takes your life he takes you on your own journey and he cleans you up on the inside he takes you places and do things you can't imagine
and at first it's like what's going on it's hard you know it's like what's going on in the world
but everything is going wrong and all of a sudden when you have jesus christ it doesn't matter
because you know you have eternity and you will have heaven in about two and a half years
roughly two and a half years later after this experience when i moved to colorado and stuff
i was pretty much traumatized by seeing hell i didn't know anything about post-traumatic stress
but uh i was working in a church i was running the sound board as a musician to
play guitar and and doing this we had a series of revivals our church grew from 30 people to 300
over this period of time and that and so i got stuck that night to work late to put up
the sound equipment everybody abandoned me was sunday night had to get up at four in the morning whatever time it was to drive the 40 minutes to work because i lived outside of town
and i was mad i was out of holy mood and afterwards
afterwards i got home and the lord actually in a very unique way i can tell you about it later in
another show if you like the lord actually showed me heaven just to calm me down about seeing health
so i did see heaven about two and a half years after that and i got uh i came back totally changed because i'm not traumatized by hell by it
anymore and um i saw things there and it was incredible place and no way to describe it
yeah we're gonna have to talk uh yeah yeah there's no place no way to describe right we'll have another show definitely brother um uh because uh that then then you and i can really um you know
share and identify and oh yeah i saw this on that moment so that's one of the things i've noticed
with some of our uh uh people who have visited heaven but um is that we have so many uh we have a
sense of uh of sharing that is um unique i mean with empathy i should say so um for those of you
who are viewing and thank you for watching to this point because i'm going to encourage you to
uh ensure that your loved ones who you've wanted to know jesus as their savior watch this
to the end they need to and that's important to uh to implore them to watch this to the end because
what we're going to do now is i'm going to um ask my brother brian to pray for those who do not know
jesus as their lord and savior so that they will see heaven and not hell when they do and everyone
will with the exception of those who are you know elijah are raptured or whatever um but you need to
encourage them to watch this uh i'm asking you if there's one video that you choose if this is the
one because some of us need to get scared quite frankly into into heaven if you will um and then
after brian prays we're going to pray together uh to pray to release
um the authority of those powers principalities and spirits of evil those demonic spirits from
oppressing and even possessing those who are out there so your loved ones stay tuned make sure they
stay tuned to the very end so brian i'm going to turn this over to you to lead us into a prayer of
salvation yes if you don't know jesus and you're tired of where your life is going and you can't
change so just just pray after me say heavenly father have mercy on me i blew it i made mistakes
i just want you to think about your mistakes i ask lord i don't understand all that you've done
but cleanse me by the power of the blood of jesus and wash me clean fill me with resurrection power and make me born again
change my life i turn my life over to you i give it all lord forgive me of my pride
it's destroying my life i betrayed people i mock people i put people on trial i put burdens on them
i even asked you if if you were real would you tap dance and do a dance for me and you never did
i i did all kinds of bad things lord in my mind and heart i asked to be forgiven of these things
and put a right spirit in me fill me with the holy spirit make me born again in jesus name
amen amen so if you pray that prayer believing in your heart you are sincere
you will not see hell you will see heaven which is our second episode with ryan which is when
the lord showed him heaven now we're going to pray uh an important prayer because even
the believers can see be susceptible to oppression and spirits and powers principalities these demons
that brian had described earlier in this show in this episode we're going to pray and i'm
going to ask ryan to pray to plead the blood of jesus over you to release you to free you
of those bondages and those oppressions and possessions in some cases so brian let's let's
go to war uh so i'm gonna call you and let's uh let's get the victory here heavenly father i just
thank you right now lord i just come before you right now you see the people's hearts you know that they've been taken captive by the devil to do the devil's will and now they need some freedom
they're held in bondage because they were rejected they had their hearts broken they grew up in
narcissistic homes they they for some reason they have the stockholm syndrome and they keep going
back to their abuser they don't understand it some of them have been abandoned left on the doorstop
and uh in some relatives house and their parents drove away and they're just standing there and that memories haunted them and they got in one failed relationship after another
others are hooked on drugs others are just hooked on making wealth and stomping on people
and and doing things they should not be doing all these people are bound and being controlled
by the evil one and all these principalities and powers and forces and so forth so i ask lord i
ask in the name of jesus christ to send forth your angels and begin unwrapping that and breaking that
power over those peoples and lives right now so in the name of jesus christ every principality every
demonic host that's invading these people's lives be released off of them right now in the name of
jesus right now here it comes right now right now out i'm not going to tolerate or talk to you you
got to leave right now and i thank you heavenly father as those things leave they are sealed
in the blood of jesus and the forgiveness of christ they will get a revelation how to be
free and they'll do their homework and they will remain free yes and they will not go back to that
stuff they may struggle they have some doubts but lord from now on you will help them and keep the
devil off their back so in the name of jesus every foul spirit that's attacking these people must go
bow your knee to the lord jesus christ and leave now in jesus name amen amen thank you brian there
has been a lot of freedom uh during and post that uh prayer so thank you so much for sharing
your account stay tuned subscribe also um we'll be sharing this on various channels both
on video and on audio and also we'll be noting uh look at the notes you can find a link to brian's book
A land unknown hell's dominion by Bryan Melvin
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